Re: Dealing with Complexity LO6372

From: John Conover <>
Subject: Re: Dealing with Complexity LO6372
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:04:10 -0800

Manuel Manga writes:
> Replying to LO6329 --
> 1. The distinction world, I distinguish the natural world and the
>    human world. which world are you speaking of ?
> 2. Fernando Flores observes that while other observers and business
>    get swept away in chaos and complexity, he teaches observers to
>    be more competent observers of the world and to produce simplicity.
>    This is not meant to put down chaos or complexity, but to also
>    be competent to observe the world from different distinctions
>    that allow for simplicity and breakthroughs.

I don't think any contemporary complexity theorist would argue with
Fernando Flores-most make similar statements. BTW, there is a good
book by the Mathematician, (actually, Logician,) Rudy Rucker, out of
San Jose State University. (He is most noted as a science fiction
writer, but has serious works, also.) See "Mind Tools," Rudy Rucker,
Boston, Massachusetts, Houghton Mifflin Company, 1993, which supports
Flores' position, but from several different scientific perspectives,
(ie., logic, information theory, complexity, etc.) Last I heard,
Rucker was doing some work with the Santa Fe Institute, so you can
probably find an email address at


BTW, "Mind Tools" is not a formal mathematical treatise-it is intended
for the un-initiated. Good reading, actually.


John Conover,,

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